I got ripped off and have the evidence to proove it, but Do I have case worth taking to civil court?

June 3rd, 2010 by admin Leave a reply »

Ok bare with me as I try and paint the picture. Im in the army and had sold my vehicle to a man in HIgher rank than I. The agreement was $3000. We went to the Equity LOAN Company which could only give $2500 max and he was to pay me the remaining $500 that day. So we get the loan after signing over the title in his name (mistake) but legally its the loan company’s vehicle til he pays them back. After that we go to his bank which is closed. So he told me he’ll pay me the rest Monday. So I drop him off and right him a bill of sale but in it I only state that, ” I (my name) have sold (his name) a jeep (its brand) AS IS on this date”. I never put how much was givin or owed. (now i no better). Ahyh monday comes and he asks if I can wait til payday, him and his wife had issues. Well payday comes and I text him. And its his wife, who states this is not a man to man deal that shes moreless in charge. Now this lady talks too much and she speaks for her husband. So my wife takes over and trys to negotiate. So its woman to woman now cuz I cant get to this guy. She text my wife in several messages that they will pay us, and there not going to rip us off. So they plan, that we’ll swing by there house and get the rest of my money the following week because MORE ISSUES have come up. K now im getting irritated and Im strictly going off of this mans integraty, mind you the army has different laws than civilians. That day comes and again another reason comes up, So I voice record the conversation. I get them BOTH on recording talking about this money they owe me and that they would pay me in full on Feb 1, the army payday. Later on as the day goes buy this lady texts us that “the back light is out on the jeep and if it cost a fur tune shes not going to pay us our money cuz its bullshit.” So I text her, them giving me the run around and not paying me is whats Bullshit. Then she Carry’s on about how theirs nothing we can do cause we already signed the title over, and say the deal was $2500. Things get heated I called the military police (m.ps) They suggest to take this to the guys Sargent Major. So I do. I start collecting evidence 1st, so I went back to the LOAN company and had 2 workers right me witness statements about the deal they over heard for $3000. I also e-mail ALL the text messages from my phone and print them out, and I take my voice recording with me to this guys Sargent Major. So we’re all in a room and HE has no idea what I got on him. So he begans to lie. Saying, “the deal was only 2500 idk what this guys talking about”. Then I whoop out my evidence and put him on the spot. So I proove hes a lier in front of the Major. So theres a witness. But the major explains that he’s in no Legal position to make him pay and tells me to go to JAG, a law office on post. I go there, talk with a lawyer who tells me laws are different with soldiers and theres a policy in the “books” that states a man of high rank cannot owe or borrow money from a soldier of lesser rank, weatherit be purchased property or damaged. He prints of the the papers and tells me to take it to Dudes cCommanderand that the commander has the authority to make him pay. (what a run around). SO I meet with yet again the MAJOR and now his COMMANDER. So again we’re all in a room, I show him my evidence and then the Skum bag tells them that ya he owes me money but he found problems with the jeep lights and he’ll get it fixed then pay me the difference. Again thats me having to go off his word, I tell them. And the cCommander explains legally he cant make him pay me so take it to civil court. Ok with all those witnesses, text msgs, voice notes, and maybe him admitting to it, Do I have a case? Should I bother. It is $500 bucks

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7 comments

  1. Sweetdaddy Rex says:

    YES; Take him to court ! Rex USN (ret.).

  2. Cactus Jack says:

    Sue the stripes off the bastard!

  3. Obama the moron president says:

    File in civil court, then go to judge judy and take it on tv.

  4. laughter_every_day says:

    Ordinarily it might be worth it but your communications skills are zero and you have virtually no chance of effectively proving your case to a judge. Find someone who can read and write to help you.

  5. PenelopeM says:

    Okay, this is where you do a cost-benefit analysis.

    You stand to recover $500 if the court finds in your favour.

    How much will it cost to file, and for all the time spent collecting your documentation and following up to get your witnesses to testify, if needed.

    Also, if you prevail, will the court add your filing costs to the amount of the judgement?

    Finally, should you win, what are the chances of you actually being able to collect the money from this guy?

  6. Kevin says:

    You can take a civil case against him but not through the army/JAG office.

    When he purchased the car from you I’m sure he inspected the vehicle before signing the papers. If he did not, then Caveat emptor (let the buyer beware). This is a legal phrase that you can check on wikipedia.

    You both agreed that the vehicle would be sold for $3000 (documented). He paid you $2500 (documented) and you have further documented proof that he still owes you the balance but has not paid.

    As for his wife’s interferance, she has no say in this matter as it is strictly between you and him. If they have issues then that’s their problem but it does not interfere with a legal transaction for exchange of goods (you selling the vehicle for an agreed price and him accepting the price)

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